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  1. Short amyloids β‰  antimicrobial peptides? 🧬❌🦠
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  • 🎧 Audio summary
  • πŸ”¬ What is this about?
  • βš™οΈ The core problem
  • 🧠 What they did
    • 🧩 Step 1: ML-based selection
    • βš–οΈ Step 2: model comparison
    • πŸ§ͺ Step 3: experimental validation
  • πŸ” Key results
    • ❌ No antimicrobial activity
    • 🧬 No cytotoxicity either
    • 🧩 Some amyloids still aggregate
    • ⚠️ ML models struggle here
  • πŸ’‘ Key insight
  • πŸš€ Why this matters
    • 🧠 Better ML models
    • ⚠️ Dataset problem
    • πŸ“£ Cultural shift in science
  • πŸ’š BioGenies perspective

Short amyloids β‰  antimicrobial peptides? 🧬❌🦠

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Experimental validation reveals that predicted antimicrobial amyloids lack real activity, highlighting a major gap in AMP datasets.
Author

BioGenies Lab

Published

January 2, 2023

Keywords

amyloids, antimicrobial peptides, AMP, machine learning, AmpGram, negative dataset, bioinformatics


πŸ“Œ Project highlights

  • 🧬 Tests short amyloids predicted as AMPs
  • πŸ€– Uses AmpGram + 15 ML models
  • πŸ§ͺ Validates experimentally on 10 bacterial strains
  • ❌ Finds no antimicrobial activity
  • πŸ“Š Proposes high-quality negative dataset for ML

πŸŽ‰ New paper!

πŸ‘‰ testing if amyloids can act like antimicrobial peptides

πŸ‘‰ Testing Antimicrobial Properties of Selected Short Amyloids


🎧 Audio summary

Machine learning said β€œthese might be AMPs”…
experiments said β€œnope” πŸ˜…

πŸ‘‰ Here’s a quick breakdown 🎧:


πŸ”¬ What is this about?

Amyloids and antimicrobial peptides (AMPs) look surprisingly similar:

  • both can disrupt membranes
  • both form aggregates (Ξ²-sheet structures)
  • both interact with the immune system

πŸ‘‰ So the question: Can short amyloids act as antimicrobial peptides?


βš™οΈ The core problem

AMP discovery relies heavily on machine learning

BUT:

πŸ‘‰ models lack true negative examples

  • very few experimentally confirmed non-AMPs
  • datasets often contain false negatives

πŸ‘‰ leads to over-optimistic predictions


🧠 What they did

🧩 Step 1: ML-based selection

  • screened 509 amyloids (WALTZ-DB)
  • used AmpGram (n-grams + random forest)
  • selected top 10 candidates

πŸ‘‰ only ~6% predicted as AMPs


βš–οΈ Step 2: model comparison

  • tested 15 additional AMP predictors

πŸ‘‰ result:

  • highly inconsistent predictions
  • only 1 peptide agreed across all models

πŸ§ͺ Step 3: experimental validation

They tested:

  • 🦠 10 bacterial strains (Gram+ & Gramβˆ’)
  • 🧫 peptide concentrations up to 128 Β΅g/mL
  • 🧬 human cell toxicity

πŸ” Key results

❌ No antimicrobial activity

  • all peptides remained green (bacteria survived)
  • MIC > 128 Β΅g/mL β†’ no effective killing

πŸ‘‰ even top ML predictions failed


🧬 No cytotoxicity either

  • no harmful effects on human cells
  • IC50 values relatively high

πŸ‘‰ peptides are biologically inactive (safe but useless as AMPs)


🧩 Some amyloids still aggregate

  • 4/10 formed fibrils
  • aggregation β‰  antimicrobial activity

πŸ‘‰ structural similarity β‰  functional similarity


⚠️ ML models struggle here

  • short amyloids = edge cases
  • predictions vary wildly across tools

πŸ‘‰ shows limits of current AMP predictors


πŸ’‘ Key insight

πŸ‘‰ This is a negative result and that’s the point

These peptides:

  • look like AMPs
  • are predicted like AMPs
  • behave like AMPs structurally

BUT:

πŸ‘‰ they are NOT AMPs


πŸš€ Why this matters

🧠 Better ML models

These sequences are:

πŸ‘‰ perfect β€œhard negatives”

  • highly similar to AMPs
  • experimentally validated as non-AMPs

πŸ‘‰ ideal for training robust models


⚠️ Dataset problem

Only ~24 confirmed non-AMPs exist (!!!)

πŸ‘‰ massive bottleneck in AMP prediction


πŸ“£ Cultural shift in science

The paper strongly argues:

πŸ‘‰ publish negative results

  • prevents bias
  • improves ML datasets
  • accelerates discovery

πŸ’š BioGenies perspective

This paper is πŸ”₯ for one reason:

πŸ‘‰ it exposes a hidden failure mode in bio-ML

  • models β‰  biology
  • predictions β‰  function
  • similarity β‰  activity

πŸ‘‰ And more importantly:

negative data = high-value data

This is exactly what:

  • 🧠 interpretable ML
  • 🧬 robust datasets
  • πŸ”¬ real-world validation

should look like

 

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